Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Damn shame. The licensing fee? Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. What part of their history am I missing Gov? About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. Apples and suspension bridges here. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). Its their prerogative. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. Didnt you read this article? And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Great grip and trigger. No offense intended. Did Springfield get shouted down at their own party? If RRA didnt know about this and, as a sign of their disgust, drops their funding and membership in the trade group youd still hold them accountable? Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. They have a good ongoing business, why jeopardize it? No Springfield guns for me. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. At least the company would survive, even if the move was costly. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. NOW all I can think is SHAME ON YOU!!!!!! 3/18/2013. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. Typical narrow minded hypocrites. CZ-75/85 are great guns. They ONLY DO WHAT THEIR CLIENTS TELL THEM TO DO. I am not positive, but didnt Beretta get so pissed with Maryland that they moved everything, or is it still on going? I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! SA created it). But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. Going the other direction nobody would move. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. The Ruger is berween $6-700. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. When Colorado banned high cap magazines magpul moved to Texas. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. Web50%. And unbelievably stupid of Springfield. I agree. I made the move to northwest Indiana 20 years ago. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). All have been accurate and reliable. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. Ive gotten good deals and free shipping on Handguards from CTD. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. Not a nice odor. (This is in response to Mark). I was just about to purchase a 1911 with the deal Springfield is running this week. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. An XD and its in .40? Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. Thank you for bringing this issue to the forefront. Springfield Armory had two, and their now-fired lobbyist held the fourth IFMA directorship. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. I think it was meant to be used with gloves on only. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. Hes told several industry types that he had no contact with IFMA lobbyist Jay Keller and knew nothing of this carve-out. Fuck Ruger as well. Rock River Arms has Neither excuse is a proper justification. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. CTD are dirtbags plain and simple. Here I was just falling in love with my SA 1911 Loaded. How did Ruger even survive to do a turn-around? WebProduct Description. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. The .308-caliber LAR-8 is plenty of gun for big-game hunting. I want to see how they fix the mess they created with the people who liked their product. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Only Ruger has in the past few years regularly donated millions to the NRA. RRA will wind up being an LE only shop. Magpul moved to WY. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. I live in Illinois. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. Dont forget about the Ruger, Smith and Wesson sellout.. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. One dealer told me hes pulling Springfield product from his shelves to give his salespeople a break from carping customers. We need to defend our legacy from the likes of them !! It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. Huh? Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. Illinois cant shut down a business that way No there is no way around it, RRA and Springfield decided their Illinois customers where not worth the trouble. Im both an Illinois resident and a SA collector with over half of my collection being custom and box SA products. Are you aware it was Bill Ruger who testified before Congress that nobody needs more than 10 rounds? If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. I totally agree Travis. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Meaning they are NOT a legal lobbyist. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. WebRock River Arms AR15 Uppers for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Some times they have deals. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. He kept his marginal Mini-14 from hitting the list, selling out the gun owner in the process! I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. Any I have to ask WHY? They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Well do our part in other states to support you. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. With support like that, who needs Everytown? CTD is my last choice. Except they are both under different ownership today. WebThis is the perfet mag for your LAR-15, and will work great in any AR-15 platform rifle. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. Accurate and precise for Springfield Armory is a dishonest operation from stem to stern. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. People Of The Gun have long memories. I think a hit to Springfield sales should get them leaning on the IFMA (who should be facing a hit to subscribers) enough for the IFMA to not fold in the future. You can not name another firearms manufacture today that has done more than Ruger to support the NRA, the 2A and firearms owners. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? But I wont EVER support a company who actively supports an infringement of any kind. This says a lot about the people running the company. Lower Half, A2 Stock Just From $410. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State Well, now. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Glock and S&W sell their guns to states like NY, NJ, HI that trample our 2A rights every day but I dont see you bashing them and Ill bet most of you own a Glock or a S&W. An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. Well also work on the NRA to start taking a firmer stance against rogue anti-2A manufacturers, no matter how much advertising space they buy. Those bastards. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. Dam I just bought a new ranger officer model.Had I know this earlier I would not have bought it. That is amazingly They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. You write as though weve been asleep. Springfield Armorys Defend your legacy has a huge hypocritical meaning now. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. when supply cant meet demand, then the price increases.. this draws more suppliers into the market to meet demand and you see the price decrease. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. Springfield is DEAD to me. And then maybe. Even if its expensive, SA is in a better position to pay the fee than Hank and Ethels gun shop. Hugely disappointing. Its about the same price as an M1A. All of these rifles are vastly superior to Ruger. If truth about guns knows whats good for them, theyll be taking this story down and apologizing publicly for spreading untrue assumptions. WebCoyote Carbine Upper Half LAR-15M .300 AAC. Thats how capitalism works. Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. Nothing unethical about this practice. Hence why, even with Democrats holding a super-majority in both our House and Senate, and a rabidly anti-gun Governor, we held the line even post-Newtown. Hinterland #: 50977; MFG #: MT1800X; In stock. And gun control wins, like this keep the gravy train flowing so they can continue to draw a paycheck and keep on going. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. Cant beat that! Yuge. This companys name is Mudd. Done. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. It washis lobbyist whostood aside on a bill that rations everyday Illinoisans to nine firearm transfers per year. AR-15 Parts. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. Never bought anything Springfield Armory, never will! Rock River Arms had one seat. Major mistake, Springfield. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). No wonder were in trouble, POTG are clueless. When the Maryland Leftistlature passed the odious Gun Safety Act of 2013, making it illegal to purchase many of the firearms made by the venerable Beretta concern, they responded by building their new facility in Tennessee, giving Maryland a stalwart raised middle finger and taking a considerable amount of tax revenue with them.. Ive not the least doubt that the rest of Beretta will eventually follow. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? Totally revitalized the economy of an American community with their 3rd plant. Overall, this is a good, solid rifle. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. I bought my first Rock Not now. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Even cosmetologists and lawyers. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. No guilt trip on my hip. I cant imagine the CEOs of those two companies werent in the loop on these negotiations. Pick something and follow it. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. They ignored it. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. In the world of .308 Win. How many model airplanes can I buy, sell or trade in one year? It only sells a 100% American Made product using American Labor. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Yes, very disappointed. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. Now Springfield will learn the hard way. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. I dont buy imported guns so SA & RRA are not going to loose any sales because of me. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. Not to mention that when S&W colluded with Clinton they were owned by the British engineering firm Tomkins. (Im a 30 yr Vet). As far as the trigger, if the RRA has the 2-stage trigger, it is much better than the stag. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. Ive never had better customer service with any other business. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Could be paperweights. So an opportunity to block others selling in Illinois seemed like a quick and dirty way to make a few more bucks. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. RRA is pretty close to Iowa iirc. CEODennis Reese hasntresponded to a request for comment or a further statement beyond the one he released Thursday night. When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. Now I wish I had not. Rock Rivers LAR-15 NSP CAR is a lightweight, reliable, well-made and accurate AR carbine that is ready for duty right out of After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. I got a 12 2a armament Mlok handguard from them for $148.97 and free shipping in September. F$&@ Ruger too! Out of stock. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. Are they doing town halls? They also make an Original Henry Rifle. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. If you are willing to do 9mm, check out an Honor Guard. I dont think the current owner is going to make that same mistake although I wish they would just stop putting in that stupid lock already. Bullshit. Yes, that is the cloud which is usually much larger than the silver lining. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. This story is libel. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. I used to have a TRP. This is how capitalism works. 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