And place is always place. Tune in now. you look back and beg We can forget this. and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. And I think its in that category. But let me say, I was taken , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. Limn: Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. On Being, which began on public radio, has been named a best podcast by The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, the Webbys, iHeart Radio with more than 400 million downloads. I write. I could. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. Becoming whole, she teaches, is not about eradicating our wounds and weaknesses; rather, the way we deal with losses, large and small, shapes our capacity to be present to all of our experiences. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. It is still the river. you can keep it until its needed, until you can And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. Foundations 4: Calling and Wholeness On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. When you open the page, theres already silence. My body is for me. [audience laughter] And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. Yeah, I was convinced. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. And I feel like poetry makes the world for that experience, as opposed to: Im fine.. Tippett: You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. All of this, as Dacher sees it now, led him deeper and deeper into investigating the primary experience of awe in human life moments when we have a sense of wonder, an experience of mystery, that transcends our understanding. Two entirely different brains. Tippett: I do feel like you were one of the people who was really writing with care and precision and curiosity about what we were going through. You will hear the voices of wise and graceful lives of former guests, and of listeners from far-flung places. I wrote it and then I immediately sent it to an editor whos a friend of mine and said, I dont know if you want this. And it was up the next day on the website. And so its giving room to have those failures be a breaking open and for someone else to stand in it and bring whatever they want to it. Im really longing I realized as I was preparing for this, Im just Of course, I read poetry, I read a lot of poetry in these last years, but I realized Im craving hearing poetry. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? @KristaTippett is the host of @OnBeing podcast and a NYTimes bestselling author. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. On Being with Krista Tippett On Being Studios Poetry Unbound On Being Studios Becoming Wise On Being Studios This Movie Changed Me On Being Studios Creating Our Own Lives On Being Studios More ways to shop: Find an Apple Store or other retailer near you. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. This is not a problem. Krista Tippett (ne Weedman; born November 9, 1960) is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. All right. I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. And then it hits you or something you, like you touch a doorknob, and it reminds you of your mothers doorknob. water, enough sorrow, enough of the air and its ease, So at this point in my notes, I have three words in bold with exclamation points. This conversation shines a light on an emerging ecosystem in our world over and against the drumbeat of what is fractured and breaking: working with the complex fullness of reality, and cultivating old and new ways of seeing, to move towards a transformative wholeness of living. July 4, 2022 9:00 am. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. into anothers green skin, Because there are a lot of unhelpful things that have been told to me. by even the ageless woods, the shortgrass plains, the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. And its page six of. Every week: practices and goodies to accompany your listen. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. and enough of the pointing to the world, weary Then in 2018, she published a brilliant essay called "Complicating the Narratives," which she opened by confessing a professional existential crisis. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. Okay, Im going to give you some choices. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. Between Silence, which we dont get enough of. the nectar lovers, and we So I want to do two more, also from. Yet it is a deep truth in life as in science that each of us is shaped as much by the quality of the questions we are asking as by the answers we have it in us to give. the Red River Gorge, the fistful of land left God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. Krista Tippett leaves public radio. inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost, letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and, the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough, of the mother and the child and the father and the child, and enough of the pointing to the world, weary. Tippett: Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. 1. Lean Spirituality. What were talking about and not when we talk about mental health. bliss before you know And it sounds like thunder? And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course, The On Being Project So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Theres whole books about how to breathe. in an endless cave, the song that says my bones It has ever and always been true, David Whyte reminds us, that so much of human experience is a conversation between loss and celebration. Stood for the many mute mouths of the sea, of the land? What Amanda has been gathering by way of answers to that question is an extraordinary gift to us all. And it wasnt until really, when I was writing that poem that the word came to me. So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. Limn: When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. And one of them this is also on. Music: Seven League Boots by Zo Keating. Before the new apartment. Poems all come to me differently. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. Limn: And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. that thered be nothing left in you, like We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. should write, huge and round and awful. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. We value the ancient power of storytelling, and we get that good stories require conflict, characters and scene. Limn: Oh, thank you. Limn: Yeah. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. Here it is again as an offering for Mothers Day in a world still and again in flux, and where the matter of raising new human beings feels as complicated as ever before. Good conflict. Technology and vitality. teeth right before they break We nurture virtues that build muscle memory towards sustained new realities including generous listening, embodied presence, and transformative relationship across backgrounds and lived experience. On Being with Krista Tippett. I dont even mourn him, just all matter-of-. Limn: Yeah. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . Tippett: Would you read this poem, The End of Poetry, which I feel speaks to that a bit. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? enough chiaroscuro, enough of thus and prophecy [2] Her guests include the 14th Dalai Lama, Maya Angelou, Mohammed Fairouz, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, Rosanne Cash, Wangari Maathai, Yo-Yo Ma, Paulo Coehlo . Thats page 95. And both parents all four of my parents, I should say would point those things out, that special quality of connectedness that the natural world offers us. Yeah. And that is so much more present with us all the time. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. Limn: And I love it, but I think that you go to it, as a poet, in an awareness of not only its limitations and its failures, but also very curious about where you can push it in order to make it into a new thing. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. for the water to stop shivering out of the enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high In me. And is it okay for me to spend time looking at this tree? Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. And I think most poets are drawn to that because it feels like what were always trying to do is say something that cant always entirely be said, even in the poem, even in the completed poem. I could be both an I Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. chaotic track. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. We live in a world in love with the form of words that is an opinion and the way with words that is an argument. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. Which makes me laugh, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. And now we have watched it in these 25 years go from strength, to strength, to strength. strong and between sleep, Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. Ive got a bone So how to get out? It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. And they would say, I dont want to go to yoga. And I was like, Why? And they said, I just dont want anyone telling me when to breathe.. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. a breaking open, a breaking Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. And: advance invitations and news on all things On Being, of course. Just the title of this, I feel is such an invitation and not the kind of invitation that was being made. Because how do we care for one another? I write the year, seems like a year you I love it that youre already thinking that. Its still the elements. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. Wilkerson, winner of the Pulitzer Prize and the National Humanities Medal, has become a leading figure in narrative nonfiction with The Warmth of Other Suns and Caste. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? And you could so a lot of what he knew in Spanish and remembered in Spanish were songs. Yeah. Discoveries about the gut microbiome, for example, and the gut-brain axis; the fascinating vagus nerve and the power of the neurotransmitters we hear about in piecemeal ways in discussions around mental health. Alex Cochran, Deseret News. And this particular poem was written after the 2017 fires in my home valley of Sonoma. Copyright 2023, And if youd like to know more, we suggest you start with our. creeks, two highways, two stepparents Tippett: I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. We want to do that where we live, and we want to do it walking alongside others.. . It wasnt used as a tool. So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. That is real but its not the whole story of us. maybe dove, maybe dunno to be honest, too embryonic, too see-through and wee. The notion of frontier inner frontiers, outer frontiers weaves through this hour. And I was in the backyard by myself, as many of us were by ourselves. and the stoic farmer and faith and our father and tis We elevate voices of wisdom and models of wise thinking, speaking, and living. Sylvia gifts us this teaching: that nurturing childrens inner lives can be woven into the fabric of our days and that nurturing ourselves is also good for the children and everyone else in our lives. One of the most fascinating developments of our time is that human qualities we have understood in terms of virtue experiences weve called spiritual are now being taken seriously by science as intelligence as elements of human wholeness. Sometimes it feels like language and poetry, I often start with sounds. Groundbreaking Peabody Award-winning conversation about the big questions of meaning, hosted by Krista Tippett. So we have to do this another time. But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. Limn: Yeah. writes the word lover in a note and Im strangely, excited for the word lover to come back. [Music: Molerider by Blue Dot Sessions]. are your bones, and your bones are my bones. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. Tippett: I guess maybe you had to quit doing that since you had this new job. The science of awe. how the wind shakes a tree in a storm But I want you to read it second, because what I found in. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. Okay. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. "Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred." adrienne maree brown and others use many . We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. Nov 28, 2022. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, enough of the animal saving me, enough of the high. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. And one of them this is also on The Hurting Kind is Lover, which is page 77. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. We get curious, we interrogate, and we ask over and over again. Limn: Yeah. And I think there was this moment where I was like, Oh, Im just sort of living to see what happens next. And the grief is also giving me a reason to get up. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. Funny thing about grief, its hold That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. Once it has been witnessed Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?. Kalliopeia Foundation. You boiled it down. I feel like theres a level in which it offers us a place to be that feels closer to who we are, because there is always that interesting moment where someone asks you who you are, even just the simple question of, How are you? If we really took a minute to think about it, How am I? This is amazing. So it was always this level in which what was being created and made as he was in my life was always musical. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. my brother and my husband to witness this, nearly clear body. love it again, until the song in your mouth feels I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. (Always, always there is war and bombs.) If you would like to hear an uplifting message at a time of global difficulty, come hear Krista Tippett speak at Central Congregational Church in Providence RI at 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 3. Limn: Yeah. The On Being Project [laughter] Were like, Ugh, I feel calmer.. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . The thesis is still the wind. 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